In this chapter, zhuo and his men argue over whether or not to hand over Cui xie. . They argue that it would be better for the city to expel the evil lord and save the cloud temple from the coming disaster than to pay the price for his evil deeds. They also argue that once he reaches heaven, he will claim to be a god and claim to rule the entire heaven. They wonder if they will be able to take responsibility for the destruction of the temple because of him.