The next day, the two sect masters discuss the progress of the young swordsman, who is imitating the moves of the older swordsman. The elder swordsman thinks that the younger swordsman is already ahead of him in his innate realm, but the younger one thinks that he is too far behind to catch up. He thinks that it is too late for the younger swordman to make it to the top 30 of the innate realm. The older swordsmaster thinks that this is a bad sign for the young swordman, because it means that he will have to defeat his own personal apprentices. The two swordsmen then discuss the possibility of a duel between the two, and the elder swordsmaster says that he would rather die than face the challenge. He says that his body is getting lighter, and he is afraid that his sister will use a move that will kill him. He decides to take a bet against her, and says that if he can't defeat her, he will kill himself.