The Governess is shocked to learn that her son is in prison for the murder of her daughter. She tells the Governess that she cannot forgive the murderer for the crime he committed against her daughter, but that she thinks that her sister is the true victim. She asks how she feels about her son's murderer, and she says that she has nothing but hatred and disgust for the murderer. She says that both families have lost children in crime, and that they have polar opposite opinions. She thinks that they both have self-defense instincts, and they have to be kind to each other. She wonders if it is okay for her to do whatever she can to help Natsuo in his place.