This chapter opens with a conversation between the Governess and her Governess's daughter, Mina. The Governess tells Mina that she has made a special pudding for her father-in-law, who is a glutton. She tells him that she made the pudding in a cooking club and that he thinks she is just a "gluttony" . He asks her if she can make sweets, and she says that she can, but that she cannot cook. He tells her that he wants to watch her eat so that she will look happy when she eats. She says that it soothes her heart to watch him eat, and that she wants him to do the same for her. He says that he eats first in order to look happy, and then he eats the rest of the meal with her. Mina says that this is a good thing, because it means that he does not see her as a girl. She asks if this means he doesn't care because she is a girl, or if he just does not care because he thinks that she is fat. Mina replies that she does not know, and says that if this is the case, then she is not happy about anything.