This chapter opens with a conversation between Hiroshi and Mina. Hiroshi tells Mina that he forgot to ask why he used her shoes for his show. Mina asks him if he knows Chiyuki's number, and he tells her that he does. Mina tells him that she is lacking in creativity, but that she possesses something more valuable than that. She is planning to meet Chiyuki, so she will bring his number. Mina says that the leather on the bag is too tight, and that they need to finish it before Chiyuki goes to meet him. She says that even if they use the same animal, the leather will still be different in its strength and stretch. If you use a soft leather, you will be good, she says, because the threads will still come apart. When she started making shoes, she would worry about the same threads also coming apart. She tells him to stretch the leather before sewing, because they will not come apart if they are wax-treated. She also says that she has a sewing machine that she plans to use to make shoes, and when she sees the finished bags, she exclaims that they are her first shoes. .