The pouch has been opened, and the kid is worried that he will not be able to open it. He wonders if he has someone else with him to help him open the pouch, and he worries that someone else will show him the pouch. He worries that if he does not succeed in finding the herb, his life will be meaningless, and his heart will be more important to him than his mother's. He asks the kid if he really thinks it is worth risking his life. The kid says that his life would be meaningless if his mother were not with him, and that her life is even more important than his own. He says that he is neither animal nor soul beast, he is a human. He tells the kid that his soul tool will help him find the location of the herb. He also says that the deeper the kid goes into the forest, the less soul beasts he encounters. The deeper the forest is, the fewer souls he encounters, and since he hasn't seen any soul beasts during this time, this place is very dangerous. He begs the kid to stop talking about the person he's saving, and asks him if he would do the same if something happened to his other friends.