This chapter begins with a conversation between zhiyin and his friend, ancestor Yuinshan. The two men discuss the current state of affairs in the yun-lan sect. Yuin-shan tells his friend that he is afraid that the barrier between the two sects has been created by elders who are "dou-kings" . He says that he does not believe there is a weak point in the barrier, and that the animation of the gis-cples does not think that he can leave. He also says that since yun po-tian, the leader of the sect, died, the sect has been reduced in size. He asks if the man who broke through the barrier is from the dou emperor, and the man replies that he was the one who died. He then asks if he knows someone who wants to destroy his sect. The old man says that the man is a quack and that he allowed the old man to not keep his self-respect as an elder, and to cause havoc with the boy in his sect . The boy says that it is not him who caused the chaos, but that he has a conscience and will not interfere in the matter.