The old man and the young man want to know if they can go to the "Central Heaven realm" , which is the place where the immortals live. The young man says that those who live in the afterlife are cowards, since they don't know how to fight back against the "idiots" from the four sides of heaven. He says that if they want to go into the "world of the dead," then they're dead people first, since the afterlife is a world of ghost. The ghost emperor has been absent from heaven for 300,000 years, so he's not really a coward. He's just a dead pretender to be dead, the old man says. This old man laughs at the idea that the dead can go into heaven's afterlife. The two young men agree that they can only go in a coffin, since it's a heavenly principle that the afterlife should be accessible to the dead. They're both glad that they have to go in the coffin, because they'll be able to stay in one place for the night. But the young men aren't sharing the coffin with the old men, because the coffin is too bumpy for them to sleep in.