The next morning, the two men head to the police station to talk. They discuss the situation in Japan, where there are no permanent offices for the police and the government is not allowed to interfere in the affairs of the people. They also discuss whether or not they should shoot the man they think is trying to kill them. The two men decide that they should protect the "darkness" of the man, but they do not know exactly what they should do. They decide to protect the man "beyond my understanding" . The men decide to talk to the woman they are talking to, makimura , and they decide to be together. The women are younger than the men, and the men want to protect them. They talk about Mibu, the former prime minister of Japan, who was a devil who came to Japan to do all kinds of work. Mibu became prime minister because he believed that the devils were dangerous and should be suppressed. He also believed that devils should blend into the society and live quietly.