Oso and the Ape discuss the possibility of killing their lord. Oso suggests that they listen to the women upstairs and then release them, but Oso refuses to listen. He tells the Ape to tie up the dog and scatter the crowd so that it scatters when it is his turn to do so. The Ape says that he has a plan to shame the bandits and stop their evil deeds. He wants to cast his head out of the gate of the house and shame their deeds worse than death. He also wants to kill the three women who fainted in front of him. He says that they will have to kill them and take them with them to the gate