The next morning, the old man asks his son if he's been using his foot as a herald. The old man tells him that he hasn't been using it as much as he'd like, but that's because it's "roaring around without purpose" . He suggests that they try using the foot to get revenge on Sagawa if he still lives, and that they might as well use the specters to do it, since they're the ones who've been "eating" the body of the dead man. The Old Man says that they can use the foot, but they'll have to use the spirit to get the job done. He's worried that Sagawa might try to track them down, but the Old Man assures him that they've got enough firepower to do the job. He tells his son to keep his voice down, because his job is to "look after makoto" , and he doesn't want to drag the ghost around while they fight Sagawa. He says that he'll do his best to get them out of the way, even if it means that they have to drag him around while fighting Sagawa, which is his job. Sagawa is still trying to track down the ghost, and the Ghost is trying to show them that he can keep track of them no matter where they run. The Ghost looks "kind of monstrous," and Sagawa says that the man they just saw was the bad guy, so they can't get back home. They're going to have to "wing it," the Ghost says, and they'd better get away as fast as they can before he can catch up with them. They can'