The old man tries to get the young man to tell him more about the fox clan, but the boy refuses to listen. He wants to know more about "the philosophy of life" , "the history of the interaction between spirits and human beings" and the "sensitive zone" of the fox family. He asks the old man to call him "brother" instead of "dear old man" . He tells the boy that it is better for him to stay with Bai di than stay in the wolf family. The boy says that he will go and speak to him.