The next morning, Valentine and Lingala discuss the events of the night before. Valentine says that he wishes he could taste more of the stew, but that he has been eating green peppers instead. He tells Lingala that the society of equals is based on the god who determined his way of life. He says that no one feels "doubt or faction" at the lack of freedom. He compares the god to the holy emperor who wears the holy congar's robe in the temple, and he says that if he had known that Lingala sensed Lingala's death when he entered the holy temple, then he would have chased him. Lingala tells Valentine that he must not die with the arrogant ideas that are clouding his mind. Valentine replies that he will give her one week to give up her arrogant ideas. He adds that if Lingala had not allowed the storm dragon to escape, it would have been fine for him to focus on the protection of the forest from the storm. With Lingala gone, the westerners will band together. With the threat of jura arising, with the western coming together as one, it will be easy for the faith to waver. The new demon lord wants to create a "rimuru enjoyable place" and needs a human to help him create it. He cannot defeat the dragon, but he cannot defeat Lingala, who is the hero of past times. The shock waves of the storm can ravage lands, unlike any magic. Valentine asks if he was swayed to show mercy to Lingala knowing that he is from the old world. He asks if the trader who gave him the information about the god Luminus was the same man who gave the trader the information in the engrassia.