The next morning, Ren Ming wakes up to find that he's been practicing all day. He's not feeling well, but he doesn't care. Ren Ming asks where his uncle and brother-in-law are, and Ren Ming tells him that they're not there yet. He also tells Ren Ming that he has come to take back Sun Shui, the son of Sun zhengfei, who has been taken prisoner by the qiu clan. He asks Ren Ming if he'll let him have him, but Ren Ming says that he plans to fight on his own, and that he won't need the sceptres to help him do it. He says that if he gives the shui to Ren Ming, then he can take the family hostage, and he'd be happy to do it himself. He then tells Ren that he killed Ren Ming's brother, Wu aotian, because he wasn't good enough to fight Ren Ming. He compares his brother's death to the death of a baby, and says that his brother isn't even as good as Ren Ming himself. Ren then launches into a long speech about how he is the third-best fighter in the whole world, after the other two, and how Ren Ming is younger than both of them, but not as strong as them.