The two men discuss the need for a cell phone in the case of a hostage situation. The man wants to know if the family will expose him to formula-based drugs, and the man says he'll be "screwed" if he's caught. He wants the evidence that the family has against the company, and he wants the family to be able to cooperate with him. He doesn't want his sister to be threatened by anyone else, he wants her to be free to do whatever she wants with her life. The two decide to work together on this, but first they have to convince each other that they're serious about this.