In this chapter, Ming-Hui and Bing-Fu discuss the differences between the two of them and their respective cooking skills. Ming-Hing is the master of the knife technique, which he calls the "bronet character void lattice." He is also the fourth of five famous knife masters, and he has seen the technique in person. He is amazed by the fact that Bing-Feng has not yet begun using magic to cook. He compares the two to the "collapse of a snow-capped mountain" and exclaims that he is the "magic chef" of ice-and-fire. He says that there is nothing remarkable about the knife techniques and that they are also tricks. He adds that there are still many things for them to learn.