The next morning, the two men discuss the situation in the southwestern province. The minister has appointed people to manage the disasters, but they have not yet seen any results. The two men blame each other for the lack of progress in the region. They argue about whether or not it is proper for the prince to be involved in the affairs of the country. The prince says that he has no right to interfere in the country's affairs, but that it is his country and the courtier's duty to keep it in order. The men agree that the court is the king's court, and that they should live their lives according to the rules of etiquette. They agree that they cannot indulge themselves in pleasure, but as long as they stay with the king, they will obey him.