At the outer gate of the wan-jian sect, the pavilion master asks Luo-yun to take control of the entire outer gate in order to "destroy his confidence" . The outer gate is "filled with losers" , he says, adding that he has made arrangements for it. He says that he will talk to the master of the pavilion and ask him not to make such a decision. He adds that the influence of chang and qiu mo will not be as strong as the internal affairs, and that there will be fewer resistance to his plan. He also says that tens of thousands are the followers of the internal gates, and there are many with special talents. By that time, he will be able to "get rid of" chang chi-xiao and quin-qiu mo and "take over" the position of pavilion master.