In this chapter, we learn that the master of the Ming family, Cai Ming-tsing, is a very good martial artist, but he is unable to save anyone. He claims that he is a "killer" who cannot distinguish between "true" and "false" actions, and that he has a reputation for killing people because of this. He asks the master if he wants to commit suicide again, and the master replies that he should not have had the chance to meet him three years ago. The master tells him that if he had been deceived, he would have killed himself. He also tells the master that he needs to tell him everything he knows, because he is implying that the poisoned man was poisoned by the taihang stream. Cai Ming says that he was not told to leave the man alone when he practiced with Guqu, and he asks if he was there when the man practiced sword with him.