When the two men are alone, the eldest daughter tells her brother and sister-in-law that she wants to leave. She tells them that she is not leaving because she does not want them to thank her, but because she is afraid that they will misunderstand what she has to say. The elder daughter tells the brothers that she has come out for some fresh air, and that she heard them shouting and waking up. She says that she feels relieved to hear that the old man is old-fashioned, because she has heard that he is reliable and that he will help make arrangements for her sister's return. The eldest daughter then asks her brother if he has begun to idolize the older man, because he is not related to her. He replies that he does not, and she tells him that he must listen carefully. The older daughter says that the situation with the family is still unclear, but that her status is more important than she imagined.