The second master explains that there is another way to change reality than hypnosis. It's called "memory transfer," and it allows people to change their own memories. For example, if someone's memory is changed from "A" to "B" , then that person will have a "very real memory" after that person receives the memory. The master then asks if anyone has this ability, and the answer is "Um, no, but I'm sure there are people out there who can do this." The master also tells the audience that it's important to remember that the last time he taught muxi, he was the one who rescued him. The next question the master asks is whether or not the woman who set the fire is really that great. The answer is yes, she is great, but she's not the kind of person that you'd like to be with. The man then asks the master why he's looking for the man, and he says that he doesn't like "the vague felling." The man also says that the woman drugged him and wanted him to be dragged to death, but that's just not what he means. He's now thinking about it, he says, and everything is so weird. The two men decide to continue talking when the man comes back.