In this chapter, we meet a young man named Ling Feizi, a disciple of a younger generation of taoists. We learn that his name is not "thick jar" , but "tan yu" . We also learn that he is 30 years old, and that he has been studying taoism for 200 years. He tells us that he and his elder brothers are leaving for home, and he asks his younger brother to take a mushroom with him. The elder brothers refuse to take the mushroom, saying that it is a fake, and the younger brother says that they are leaving first. He says that he will not beat the elder brothers next time, because he is not a decent person. He also says that if he cannot be a good person, there is no need for him to consider his heart. He promises to fight his older brother the next day.