When sheng asks why he didn't take out the talisman earlier, he explains that it was a seal from his family. This is the first seal that he has seen, and seals like this are meant to prevent the passage of gods and to suppress them. He says that this is the seal of his family, and this is also the seal that lady zhao used to seal the temple in the wasteland. He also says that the temple is facing the sun, and that it is the real temple of the Mings. He tells sheng that he saw his sister, Pei yun, and the other eunuch together, and she is spreading rumors about him and his sister. He wonders if there is another Ming temple, and he wonders if lu jiu was lying about it. He concludes that the whole place was a barren wasteland and that even if someone saw the temple, they would think it is a mirage, not a temple. sheng says that he will go with him to check out the place, and sheng thanks him for his acting skills.