The next morning, Hirohito and Onukita discuss the situation at the factory. They are aware of the fact that Hibiki and Hashima are responsible for the factory's activities, but they do not want the public to know about it. They have tried to kill Hashima, but he has become addicted to morphine, so he has resorted to using large quantities of the drug to kill people. He has killed twenty men, many of whom have lost their minds. The next day, he kills twenty men again, but this time, he declares that he will save his life by using the same amount of morphine that he used to kill the first twenty men. He says that he is the one who is responsible for everything concerning hashima, and that he looks like he is chewing on the sand when he eats. He wonders if onukita talked to him, and he still does not know if he is that simple or complicated. He thinks that if he does not want to be killed, he can still live a simple life. He wants to eat the croquettes again, thinking that they are the best food in the world.