In this chapter, Carmen explains that he is just an ordinary traveler, and that it is an honor to receive his noble presence. He says that he does not like talking about noble nonsense, but he does like to talk to others. Carmen asks if he thinks he is here to find duo meng; he says that this is within the dream, and he is unable to use his power there. He asks if she still needs his help, and she says that she does not want to give him anything specific. According to her, the energy system of the dream is the power they use to fight this energy system. Once the war ends, however, that will cause mental damage. He wants to know how they want to end the war by killing all the demons. He knows that they are very powerful and that normal people cannot keep a high consciousness. He apologizes for being negligent, and asks if they can make him realize this is a dream. He explains that dreams are responses to important emotions neglected in their subconscious. In a dream, the key emotion is a breakthrough, and if the dream master does not accept this emotion, the dream will end.