The minister tells the king that the man is an important member of the tianqiyu community, and that the king should kill him immediately. The minister points out that even if the king killed the man, he wouldn't have the power to seal all of his mouths. The king says that he hasn't interrogated the man yet, but he's sure that he'll be able to gain all of the information he needs from the spy in Jinglei City. He says that even though the king is young, he still knows how to court-equip, so killing the man now would be a mistake. The old minister says that the young king has military merits, but the man should be killed because he has dishonored the late emperor. Just because the king had a previous quarrel with the duke, doesn't mean he should kill the man right now. The man says that when he came to the city, he didn't want to be tortured or interrogated, but rather wanted to stay and die. Why should the king kill him now?