The young master laughs at the idea that the tie family would do such evil things as kill women and children. He says that they would never do such a thing. He tells the young master that Yu liu saved his servant and kidnapped his son. But at the end of the day, he blamed the whole thing on the army. He thinks that this means that he is being used by the enemy. He wants to get rid of his father, but the master tells him to hold on to him. The master says that he'll take him to ying, and he says that his father is not dead yet, but he's already wearing mourning clothes for him. He asks the master to stop acting, and the master replies that he ordered his men to kill Ma'am. He's not lying, he says, because his brother saw that he killed her with his eyes.