The sun and the vice captain discuss the summoning of the dark knight, which they believe is necessary because the leader is losing his "pride" for the knights. The vice captain says that it is necessary to use the knight against those who are powerless. The sun says that he has an immortal body and that he can try losing a lot of time, but the wound on his chest is not so bad. He says that the lower creatures will feel "pressurized" since the gods no longer care about their existence. He also says that they are only collaborating for "common interests" and that they do not want to "sacrifice sacrifices" for "the greater good." He says he is willing to get his hands dirty in order to survive.